Showing posts with label ancient Germanic history. Show all posts
Showing posts with label ancient Germanic history. Show all posts

Thursday, September 29, 2022

Guido von List: Part 35 - The Mysteries of the Rûna

According to Dr. Stephen Flowers, in short, the word Rûna means “seek the mysteries.” I would suggest to anyone interested, to google "dr stephen flowers runa" and you can find numerous lectures that go into detail about Rûna. I've already posted some of that. I'm going to look at just a few different observations and possible connections. The word and concept is of Teutonic or Proto-European origin, from northern Europe but adopted into words of languages across the rest of Europe. Although possibly it may have developed on its own--but from the same basic root word--via the Proto-European languages in several of those regions over time. Within any practical study of history and language, we would call it of Teutonic origin.

 



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Above: Goddess Idun

From thaliatook.com

Idun, Norse Goddess of Youth, Immortality, and Beauty from the World Goddess Oracle by Thalia Took.

Nova Luna Center

Idun, Norse Goddess of Youth and Immortality by Thalia Took Idun ("She Who Renews") is the Norse Goddess of youth Who grows the magic apples of immortality that keep the Gods young. Her husband Bragi is God of poetry.

 

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Excerpt from 'Guido von List: Part 1'

During the years 1888–1899 List was involved with two important literary associations. In May 1891 Iduna, which had the descriptive subtitle of "Free German Society for Literature", was founded by a circle of writers around Fritz Lemmermayer. Lemmermayer acted as a sort of "middle man" between an older generation of authors (which included Fercher von Steinwand, Joseph Tandler, Auguste Hyrtl, Ludwig von Mertens, and Josephone von Knorr) and a group of younger writers and thinkers (which included Rudolf Steiner, Marie Eugenie delle Grazie, and Karl Maria Heidt). The name Iduna was provided by List himself and is that of a North Germanic goddess of eternal youth and renewal. Richard von Kralik and Joseph Kalasanz Poestion, authors with specifically neo-Germanic leanings, were also involved in the circle.



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KHPR: The Voice of Darkness

KHPR 004: Dr. Stephen Flowers on Runa

Dec. 23, 2009

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Today we are taking a bit of a different turn. Instead of an interview, KHPR is presenting a lecture by Dr. Stephen Flowers an Ipssisimus of the Temple of Set and the Magus who uttered the word Runa, which means “seek the mysteries.” Dr. Flowers gave this lecture at the recent Conclave held in Austin, Texas and is an accomplished writer of over twenty books on Runa and related subjects.

In 1980 he founded the Rune-Gild, the world’s largest and most influential initiatory organization dedicated to Rune-Work and the Odian path. For more information on Dr. Flowers work you can visit his community website at www.edred.net. Dr. Flowers also hosts the thrice weekly Radio Free Runa podcast on this site.

As always you can email us at radams@khprvod.org  or via skype at KHPRshow and follow us on Twitter @KHPRvod. You can also sign up to receive an email whenever a new show or post is put up. Just use the subscription form to the right which includes an opt-in ability so that no one can sign you up without your knowing about it.

 

 

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Rune and Runa

Is there a connection between these words, what they symbolize, or even male and female symbolism? For starters, Rune (male) and Runa (female) are indeed given names in Scandinavia. Rune is a masculine given name derived from the Old Norse word rún, meaning "secret." It is earliest attested in a runestone as runi. That's really interesting just in of itself, and reflects a linkage. Could the masculine aspect of the mysteries manifest in signs, while the feminine aspect of it manifest inner spiritual symbolism (i.e. the Norse runes [ex. Othala] and the divine feminine energy [ex. Iduna])? There is a female given name of Japanese origin, and meanings in other languages, which I would discount as linguistic coincidence. However, I do think there are many connections which are ancient and widespread, and are linked back to the ancient travels of the Teutonic peoples.

Runa is a given name in countries around the Himalayas, which very possibly could tie into to the original Teutonic homeland north of the Himalayas, going clear back to the last glacial movement. Even a version of the triskelion is found in Tibetan Buddhist culture. How did it get there?. Runa is the name of a former civil parish in Portugal, and still goes by that name. Runa is also the name of a city in West Virginia, named after Runa McClung, the sister of an early settler. According to Wiktionary.org, Borrowed from Old Norse rún, which is from Proto-Germanic *rūnō (“letter, literature, secret”), which is borrowed either from Proto-Celtic *rūnā or from the same source as it; compare Dutch rune, German Rune and Swedish runa. This would seem to suggest a possible Proto-European origin via the Proto-Celts; however, I think most of the evidence points to a very ancient, pure Teuton origin.

The etymology on the above "rune" Wiktionary page, all point to a Norse origin. Interestingly though, in Italian, "runa" means "dart or javelin," with "runa" being the plural, and is of Latin origin... or at least that's what's stated. However, there could have been a very ancient Proto-European origin there, or it may still link to a Norse origin since everything else links to it. In the bigger picture of history, the ancient Teutons brought Rûna with them from their original homeland, in small waves across northern Europe (and their progeny down into southern Europe), and down to ancient Persia, Assyria, and Asia Minor (and their progeny down to the Indus Valley), and finally across half of northern Europe in a final huge wave (and their progeny down into southern Europe).

In Albanian, "runë" means an air-hole of a chimney, with runa as its plural form. The book 'The Tradition of Household Spirits' (Lecouteux; 2000) describes how many parts of a home--across different cultures--were once thought of as sacred (such as a chimney), and they were intimately connected with everyday spiritual traditions. In Turkish, "rün" has the general runic meaning that we usually think of... the runes. This would originate from people who long predated the invasion of Turkic tribes about nine hundred years ago. Also, other regions of the near and middle east are demographically much different than in ancient times.



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"The invisible society is a secret and most august fraternity whose members are dedicated to the service of a mysterious arcanum arcanorum."
-- Lectures on Ancient Philosophy


The personal arcana

Whose to say that you can't be a "secret society" or study group of one or two? Knowledge, occult revelations, or applied symbols and concepts can be constructed brick by brick.



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Haliurunas

Haliurunas, haljarunae, Haliurunnas, haliurunnae, etc., were Gothic "witches" (also called priestesses, seeresses, shamans or wise women) who appear once in Getica, a 6th century work on Gothic history. The account tells that the early Goth king Filimer found witches among his people when they had settled north of the Black Sea...

In the Wiktionary links for "rune" and "runa," within the offshoots in other European languages, often were "runa" for singular and "runas" for plural... sometimes with a double "nn." The Goths, who spread to almost every corner of Europe at various times, were originally from Scandinavia... The Land of Rûna.



Etymology

The name has been emended as the Goth-Latin forms haliurunnas, or haljarunae (and variations of the two forms) from several variants in the ms, i.e. aliorumnas, alyrumnas, aliorunas and aliuruncas.

The first element halju- is a variant of halja- 'Hell' (i.e. 'Hel, the abode of the dead'), but it has also been suggested that the first element does not refer to the realm of the dead, but instead directly to Hel, the goddess of the dead. Scardigli (1973) has analysed the second element as runnas, from *rinnan 'to run', and so the word would mean 'hell runners', i.e. female shamans. Lehmann (1986) considers this analysis preferable to Müllenhoff's who analyzed it as haljo-runas and compared it to OHG holz-rûna 'witch'.

However, others are of the same opinion as Müllenhoff, and analyse the second element as runas, and so it is considered to be cognate with Old English, hellerune ('seeress' or 'witch') and OHG hellirûna ('necromancy') and hellirunari ('necromancer'). Orel follows this interpretation and reconstructs it as the Proto-Germanic form *χalja-rūnō(n) in which the first element is *χaljō 'hel, the abode of the dead', and the second is *rūnō ('mystery, secret').

During Proto-Germanic times, the word *rūnō still referred to chanting and not to letters (rune), and in the sense 'incantation' it was probably borrowed from Proto-Germanic into Finnish where runo means 'poem'.

Klaeber and Niles et al. write the Latin-Gothic word as haljarunae and comment that the word appears in Beowulf in hwyder helrūnan where it means 'such demons', and it shows that the word would have been helrūne in the nominative singular. Neidorf adds that the use of the word in Beowulf supports the early 8th century dating of the poem, because besides the unambiguous attestation in the 6th century Getica (haljarunae), it is only attested in the 8th century Aldhelmian glosses, where it appears five times. The word is glossed consistently as divinatrix ('seeress') and phitonissa ('witch'), and twice wicca ('witch') is listed as a synonym. The appearance of the word in these early sources shows that in the 8th century helrūne and wicca were competing terms, but helrūne was out-competed very early in the Anglo-Saxon language and so the word wicca dominates with 28 attestations.

Lukman (1949) argued that Cassiodorus was inspired by a Roman account about a Germanic seeress whose name appeared in the form Auriniam, but the word haliurunna is generally considered to be an authentic Gothic word.

 

 


 

Account

Sixth century Goth scholar Jordanes reported in his Getica that the early Goths had called their seeresses haliurunnae (Goth-Latin).

Filimer, king of the Goths, son of Gadaric the Great, who was the fifth in succession to hold the rule of the Getae after their departure from the island of Scandza — and who, as we have said, entered the land of Scythia with his tribe — found among his people certain witches, whom he called in his native tongue Haliurunnae.

The Haliurunnae found refuge in the wilderness where they were impregnated by unclean spirits from the Steppe, and engendered the Huns, which Pohl compares with the origin of the Sarmatians as presented by Herodotus.



Beowulf


Damico (1984) connects haliurunae, which she translates as 'demons' and 'sorceresses', to the word helrūnan, which is glossed as Valkyrie, as a grim spirit of battle, and that it also appears in Beowulf as a name for Grendel, and for his mother by implication. She points out similarities between the haliurunas, the "fierce and hellish tribe", and Grendel and his mother.

She further connects them to the supernatural female powers called dísir in Scandinavian tradition who were appeased by sacrifices and adds that after the attack by the helrūnan, the Danes sacrifice at heathen temples hærgtrafum with honours of war, weorþunga.

 



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Albruna

Albruna, Aurinia or Albrinia are some of the forms of the name of a probable Germanic seeress who would have lived in the late 1st century BC or in the early 1st century AD. She was mentioned by Tacitus in Germania, after the seeress Veleda, and he implied that the two were venerated because of true divine inspiration by the Germanic peoples, in contrast to Roman women who were fabricated into goddesses.



Name debate

Lukman (1949) claimed that Cassiodorus may have been influenced by the form aurinia and used it when writing his account on the Haliurunas in the Getica, but the word haliurunna is generally considered to be an authentic Gothic word.



Albruna

It was Wackernagel who first proposed the emendation Albrunam, and Albruna, and which was accepted by Müllenhoff, and de Vries. It has since then been the most commonly accepted form. The name is also attested independently for other women as Albrun in OHG, Ælfrun in OE and Alfrun in ON.

 

 

Western Pennsylvania German folk magic

The possible appearance of Albruna in Tacitus' work 98 AD, suggests, however, that these names may have reflected much older naming traditions.

The name element -run is a rare element in Old Germanic names. Sixth century Goth scholar Jordanes reported in his Getica that the early Goths had called their seeresses haliuru(n)nae and the word also identified in Old English, hellerune ('seeress' or 'witch') and in OHG as hellirûna ('necromancy') and hellirunari ('necromancer'), and from these forms an earlier Proto-Germanic form *χalja-rūnō(n) has been reconstructed, in which the first element is *χaljō, i.e. Hel, the abode of the dead, and the second is *rūnō ('mystery, secret'). In the Proto-Germanic period, before the introduction of runes, the word *rūnō did not yet refer to letters (rune) but it appears to have referred to chanting, and with this meaning it was probably borrowed from Proto-Germanic into Finnish where runo means 'poem'. In the daughter languages, it had various meanings in addition to runic writing. In Gothic it had the meanings 'secret' and 'decision', in Old High German it meant 'secret' and 'whisper', in Old English it referred to 'secret' and 'secret advice', and in Old Norse it meant 'secret knowledge'.

Rudolf Much translated the name as 'having secret knowledge of elvish spirits' or 'confidante of elves'. Schweizer-Sidler and Schwyzer follow Wackernagel and explain her name as 'one gifted with the divine, magical powers (runa) of the [elves]', and Simek interprets Albruna as 'the trusted friend of the elves' or 'the one gifted with the secret knowledge of the elves'. Although, Orchard cautions that most manuscripts have the name Aurinia, he considers Albruna to be "highly appropriate" and he agrees on the translation 'elf-confidante'. Morris translates her name as 'a sorceress with elf-like power' and compares it to Old English liodruna which meant 'sorceress with the help of songs' and helliruna 'a sorceress with the power of hell'.

 

Aurinia

Reichert has studied the name Guiliaruna, which appears as the name of a female Christian priest among the Germanic Vandals in Hippo Regius in North Africa, and he argues that Albruna can not be dismissed. He comments that it can hardly be a coincidence that a priestess is attested with a name having the second element -runa, from Proto-Germanic *rūnō, and it is probably not the name she was given at birth, but an epithet meaning 'priestess'. The first letters Gu- is a common representation of Germanic w-.



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Seeress (Germanic)

In Germanic paganism, a seeress is a woman said to have the ability to foretell future events and perform sorcery. They are also referred to with many other names meaning "prophetess", "staff bearer", "wise woman" and "sorceress", and they are frequently called witches or priestesses both in early sources and in modern scholarship.



Names and terminology

Aside from the names of individuals, Roman era accounts do not contain information about how the early Germanic peoples referred to them, but sixth century Goth scholar Jordanes reported in his Getica that the early Goths had called their seeresses haliurunnae (Goth-Latin). The word also appears in Old English (OE), hellerune ("seeress" or "witch") and in Old High German (OHG) as hellirûna ("necromancy") and hellirunari ("necromancer"), and from these forms an earlier Proto-Germanic form *χalja-rūnō(n) has been reconstructed, in which the first element is *χaljō, i.e. Hel, the abode of the dead, and the second is *rūnō ("mystery, secret"). At this time the word *rūnō still referred to chanting and not to letters (rune), and in the sense "incantation" it was probably borrowed from Proto-Germanic into Finnish where runo means "poem."

In OE, hellerune ("seeress" or "witch"), or helrūn...



Projection

According to de Vries, the origin of gandr is a word gan- meaning "magic", of which there was an ablaut grade gin- (in English there is still a semantic relationship between the ablaut grades swam and swim, and sat and sit) that may be found in the name of the primordial chasm Ginnungagap ("space filled with magic powers"), and on the migration age Björketorp and Stentoften runestones, it appears in the sense "magically powerful" in Proto-Norse ginnarunaʀ ("powerful runes"

 

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Rûna root words in Camun dialect

There are many mysteries within ancient Camunian culture. The Rosa Camuna, pentagrams, labyrinths, life runes, the horned god, stone observatories with connections to the Ophiuchus constellation (astronomy and astrology; the 13th sign of the zodiac; 13 month calendar starting in April), and much more. The Camunian dialect was isolated, therefore it has many ancient pre-Latin words. For example, the world for moon is mòn, not luna. The name for the Moon Goddess is still present in the dialect, Mòna, but after centuries of Christian zealotry, it now embarrassingly means basically "a whore."

So, if any old language had so arcane a word as Rûna, it might be Camun, which is really a sub-dialect of the Brescian dialect of Western Lombard, which itself is a branch of the Lombard language. I did find a few words with "runa," but did they follow any consistent pattern, or did they allude to anything suggesting any metaphoric pagan or mystery connections? With some of the words here, it was likely just a coincidence of spelling, but with others it may well have been part of a compound word at some point in time.

Amprunà -  reverse, overturn
Amprunàh - to tip over, lie down
Amprunàh-dó - go to bed
Cahtrunàda - to talk rubbish
Cerûna -  beautiful, healthy face
Ciacerûna - chatty
Corùna or cùrùna -  crown
Incurunasciù - coronation
Ompruna - to dish, to damage a reputation
Omprunas - topple over
Ontruna (or ontrunat ?) - deeply asleep
Patrùna or padrûna - mistress
Pirùnàt - harpoon
Poltrùna - lazy - chair with armrests (armchair)
Pultrùna - lounge chair
Sbarùnà - go to pieces
Scarùnà - driving wagons on mountain mule tracks
Scavrùnàda - picnic, excursion
Slandrùna - whore
Smarunada - gross error
Sperùnà - ram
Sperùnada - rammed
Spérunada (Bienno sub-dialect) - rammed, fork ?
Spirunà - break into shreds, use fork ?
Spirùnada - shred, forkful
Tèruna (Bienno sub-dialect) - begin to ripen (ex. grapes)
Terunàs - derogatory for a southerner

Two words, Cerûna (beautiful, healthy face) and Ciacerûna (chatty), had the exact spelling with the exact accent mark! Rûna. I suppose that it's a bit curious, if we're looking for some ancient connection to the divine feminine, that both words could allude to what maybe are female traits. Certainly "beauty" would be linked to the feminine. Some of the definitions could be interpreted as a type of regeneration of nature from death in winter (shred, overturn, ram), to life in spring (ripen, beautiful), while others could suggest a certain nobility (crown) which could hearken back to some type of spiritual nobility.

There's nothing absolutely etched in stone that states that the ancients just adored the Goddess Mòna. In an extremely harsh environment, she may have been despised for bringing winter (death) upon them! She was "a whore" ("slandrùna") perhaps? Then when she ushered back the spring (life), she was beautiful and healthy ("cerûna"). I don't know, but I'm just brain storming what could possibly have been the origin for these words. I have a little bit of a hard time imagining that they would think of the Moon Goddess as "a whore," but maybe that meaning was a bastardization of something else describing the harshness of winter, and cursing it.

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Tuesday, November 1, 2016

The Arctic Home in the Vedas: Part 22 - Was Jötunheim the original Teutonic homeland?


For the most part, what is today known as the culture of Asatru came into being in northern Europe within the last 3,000 years. For example, prior to about 1,000 BCE, there were no runes carvings. It's at least possible that this culture was actually formed from a fusion between proto-Europeans and the incoming Teutons. Would it be a stretch to speculate that the legend of Jötunheim, and it's giants (the Jötnar), could have originated with the proto-Europeans regarding the early migration of Teutons? The original Teutonic homeland was likely located from the Himalayas to the Arctic Sea, not including later migratory outposts such as ancient Aryan Persia.

The average height of men back then was a little over five feet tall; and I'm guessing that the pure Teutons were at least a foot taller than that on average.... "Giants." I can recall reading of how the Greek Byzantines thought of the Langobards as "giants." Even today, the Dinka tribe in Africa has an average height of about ten inches taller than the surrounding peoples; so there is genetic precedent for this type of height disparity between basically similar peoples. Montenegrins are about seven inches taller on average than their Balkan neighbors. It may sound crazy, but the Teutons could have been 15 inches taller than the proto-Europeans... having now been diffused down to an average of 5'11".

The imcoming Teution warriors must have struck tremendous fear into the proto-Europeans of northern Europe. To put it bluntly... could northern Europe have been "Midgard" and northern Eurasia "Jötunheim"? "Nordic" is a regional ethnographic term, and the traditional Norse are themselves partly descended from proto-Europeans. Aspects from the ancient indigenous people could also have simply merged into what later became Asatru. What may sound sort've odd today, "different" types of Scandinavians, has at least some equivalent examples in northern Europe in the written record. For example, there were different "types" of Irish people a thousand years ago.... some Teutonic, some Atlanto-Mediterranian; some dark haired, some blonde; some tall, some short..... different cultures which later became "the Irish."

The worst and coldest winters blow from Siberia across northern Europe, that is from the east, where the frost-giants waft cold blasts of wind to blacken tender buds and chill the hearts of men, but it was in the far north, where the night reigned longest and the ice never melted that the entrance to Nefl-heim and Angerbode's Ironwood lay. In the psycho-geography of the Other World, Angerbode could be both east of Midgard in Jötunheim and in Ironwood; such was her reputation that she dwelt simultaneously in the world of places.

-- Leo Ruickbie, 'Witchcraft Out of the Shadows' (1988), 'East of Midgard: Witchcraft, Magic and Religion Amongst the Pagan Tribes of Northern Europe', page 43

I'm not suggesting that the entire legend originated with the proto-Europeans, but that certain aspects may have come from their long-ago culture and perspective. Other aspects may have been different. Some may have seen the Teutons as "gods" or some other mystical concept. I suppose that it's even possible that the fantastic Germanic "imagination of itself," from more modern history, may have been a long cultural carryover from the original indigenous people. I suppose that you could say that Dolph Lundgren could be sort've a modern representative of the original Teutonic element, and Mariska Hargitay a modern representative of the proto-European element of northern Europe... a perfect mixture. Even their names give a certain mystical clue; the powerful Teuton and the magical Alpine.
 




Nordic/Viking Music - Jötunheimr

Adrian von Ziegler

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A new Viking song that goes straight into Norse Mythology! It's the longest and most powerful Viking song that I made so far, and we're one step closer again to the video of "1 Hour of Viking Music" that I promised. =) Hey, if you already know what the title means feel yourself high-fived by me, and if you can pronounce it then feel double high-fived!^^


Jötunheimr is the home world of the Giants from Norse Mythology (one of the Nine Worlds, more known worlds are for example Midgard and Asgard). Jötunheimr is definitely one of the lesser known worlds commonly, but for me it was always one of the most fascinating. Therefore since I started making those songs that are focused on Vikings and Norse Mythology I always knew that I would do a song specifically about Jötunheimr one day. And here it is!^^

Ah yes, the voice that you hear in the song is my own, and believe it or not: It's not edited. It's a raw recording, only hall effect was added.^^ People already asked me in the song „Einherjer" whether I edited my voice to make it deeper, but it's naturally like that. Maybe I'll show you once. xD

Also, adding this note again because I want no misunderstandings: (I know many people are very fond of Viking culture -- I'm one of them^^)

People were asking me how would I know what kind of music the Vikings really made, since they are gone since centuries. But I don't claim to know that, what I do is writing ABOUT Vikings.^^ I don't know what they played 1000 years ago, I simply compose music that I personally see fitting to tell tales about them. So if there are Fantasy elements or Film music-like parts included -- that's why.^^ I mostly try to keep it traditional though, as well as my knowledge about it lets me do that. =)

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The misty forest gave a sense of foreboding, that the warrior could not disagree with. But, he was a Viking; he would not run just because of the tales women tell while at the spindle. He removed his helmet, setting it down in front of him and drew his sword and a rag, wiping off the dark ichors of the last fight.

Thump.

He heard it, looking up. It was a loud sound, as if a tree fell in the distance. He quietly returned to work on his blade, hand gripping the hilt tightening.

CRACK!

He heard the splintering of a great oak. Closer. He stood, placing his helmet on as a dark shape towered over him in the mist, it was massive, at least as tall as a house. Two piercing white eyes illuminated the fog, watching him. “Norseman...” It rumbled. “These woods are not your place.”

“I shall not be cowed with words!” He declared back, sword in hand, “A brave one too...” The giant mused, cocking it's head. “And meat. There is good meat on you...” It crouched down to get a better look, gripping a tree, the wood straining under it's crushing grip. “What brings you to this cursed wood?” The viking weighed his odds. He had the arrow wounds from the last fight, his shield had been smashed, and his body ached. He smiled grimly.

“Victory, or Valhalla.”


-- Troy Nelson, YouTube user

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Thursday, November 29, 2012

The Arctic Home in the Vedas: Part 7



Above: '1-5 Tarim Mummies - Indo-Europeans in China'; posted by alisonpita

2-5 Tarim Mummies - Indo-Europeans in China

3-5 Tarim Mummies - Indo-Europeans in China

4-5 Tarim Mummies - Indo Europeans in China

5-5 Tarim Mummies - Indo-Europeans in China



Tarim mummies (Wikipedia)

The Tarim mummies are a series of mummies discovered in the Tarim Basin in present-day Xinjiang, China, which date from 1900 BCE to 200 CE. Some of the mummies are frequently associated with the presence of the Indo-European Tocharian languages in the Tarim Basin, although the evidence is not totally conclusive. Victor H. Mair's team made the conclusion that the mummies are basically Europoid, likely speakers of an Indo-European language.



So how would the people who were to become "the Tarim mummies" fit into this hypothesis? Well, even today--four-thousand years later--it's pretty evident that they are very Germanic-looking in appearance. Their DNA shows that they were, at that point, slightly mixed with Mongols. The bulk of the Mongols showed up in the region about three-thousand years ago. Again, the Aryan hypothesis we were looking at was long before Mongol, Semitic, or Turkic expansion.


Roman accounts (Wikipedia)

Pliny the Elder (Chap XXIV 'Taprobane') reports a curious description of the Seres (in the territories of northwestern China) made by an embassy from Taprobane (Ceylon) to Emperor Claudius, saying that they "exceeded the ordinary human height, had flaxen hair, and blue eyes, and made an uncouth sort of noise by way of talking", suggesting they may be referring to the ancient Europoid populations of the Tarim Basin:

"They also informed us that the side of their island (Taprobane) which lies opposite to India is ten thousand stadia in length, and runs in a south-easterly direction—that beyond the Emodian Mountains (Himalayas) they look towards the Serve (Seres), whose acquaintance they had also made in the pursuits of commerce; that the father of Rachias (the ambassador) had frequently visited their country, and that the Seræ always came to meet them on their arrival. These people, they said, exceeded the ordinary human height, had flaxen hair, and blue eyes, and made an uncouth sort of noise by way of talking, having no language of their own for the purpose of communicating their thoughts. The rest of their information (on the Serae) was of a similar nature to that communicated by our merchants. It was to the effect that the merchandise on sale was left by them upon the opposite bank of a river on their coast, and it was then removed by the natives, if they thought proper to deal on terms of exchange. On no grounds ought luxury with greater reason to be detested by us, than if we only transport our thoughts to these scenes, and then reflect, what are its demands, to what distant spots it sends in order to satisfy them, and for how mean and how unworthy an end!"



This occurred two-thousand years ago, so apparently at least some of them were Germanic in appearance even at that point. It should be pointed out that while the Tarim mummies are constantly referenced as being "in China," it was not yet "Chinese" three-thousand years ago. Also, just because it is a desert now doesn't mean that it was a desert at the end of the last glacial movement ten-thousand years ago.


Tocharians (Wikipedia)

The Tocharians or Tokharians were ancient speakers of Tocharian languages
in the Tarim Basin (modern Xinjiang, China). The Indo-European language of the Tocharians was supplanted by the Turkic languages of the Uyghur tribes about 800 AD.

The Afanasevo culture is a strong candidate for being the earliest archaeological record of speakers of the Tocharian languages.



Tocharian languages (Wikipedia)

Tocharian or Tokharian is an extinct branch of the Indo-European language family, formerly spoken in oases on the northern edge of the Tarim Basin (now part of the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region of China) by the Tocharians. Two branches of Tocharian are known from documents dating from the 3rd to 9th centuries AD:

*  Tocharian A (Agnean or East Tocharian; natively ārśi) of Qarašähär (ancient Agni, Chinese Yanqi) and Turpan (ancient Turfan and Xočo); and

*  Tocharian B (Kuchean or West Tocharian) of Kucha and Tocharian A sites.
Prakrit documents from 3rd century Kroran on the southeast edge of the Tarim Basin contain loanwords and names that appear to come from another variety of Tocharian, dubbed Tocharian C. All these languages became extinct after Uyghur tribes expanded into the area.


The Proto-Indo-European Urheimat hypotheses ties closely into the "Arctic Home in the Vedas" theory, but the time frames don't quite line up, and I don't think it goes back far enough. It's too convenient. I think that Bal Gangadhar Tilak proved that this goes back further in time, and further north. The Kurgan hypothesis (see map) is the one which seems to tie in a lot of loose ends, especially in the area of the Indo-European languages, but I would still agree more with Tilak.

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