Incredible Russell Means lecture

Russell Means Americans Are The New Indian

The Alex Jones Channel

American Indian Russell Means gives an eye-opening 90 minute interview in which he explains how Native Americans and Americans in general are all imprisoned within one huge reservation. "The history of the American and the history of the Indian have now come full circle and are intertwined in the dictatorial policies of those that control the monetary system of America," remarks Means. This is a special re-broadcast of an earlier interview in remembrance of Russell Means, who passed away Monday Morning at his home in Porcupine, South Dakota. We will greatly miss this true american icon who showed us the way.

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I listened to this lecture on my iPod, three weeks ago now, during a three hour drive amid a fascinating back-and-forth weather battle between sun and rain. I had heard Russell Means speak before, mostly on different issues than this. This lecture started out largely on his usual points of interest; however I was amazed on how it then graduated onto the bigger political picture. It's a fascinating lecture, showing the deep depths of his thought. At the tail end of it I may have disagreed a bit on several small points; but it was one of the best, most spiritually-minded, most logical, and truthful lectures that I've ever listened to.

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The ongoing struggle to save Navajo sacred sites

How American Indian Land Is Still Being Stolen For Mining - Kierán Suckling

TheLipTV2

Published on Jul 27, 2015

American Indian land is being stolen from them for valuable mining rights, and we look at how the Congress’ secret giving away of Apache sacred sites is awakening outrage over a pattern of theft and environmental exploitation with Kierán Suckling. Racism against Native Americans, the catastrophic mining practices being used, Oak Flat Apache protests, and the actions that can be taken against government land grabs for corporations is all discussed in this Antidote interview, hosted by Michael Parker.

GUEST BIO:
Kierán Suckling is a founder and executive director at the Center for Biological Diversity. In addition to overseeing its conservation and financial programs, he created and maintains the country's most comprehensive endangered species database. Kierán acts as liaison between the Center and other environmental groups, negotiates with government agencies, and writes and lectures; he has authored scientific articles and critical essays on biodiversity issues. He holds a master's in philosophy from the State University of New York at Stonybrook and a bachelor's from Holy Cross.


EPISODE BREAKDOWN:
00:01 Welcoming Kierán Suckling to Antidote.
00:55 San Carlos Apache and protecting the sacred sites.
04:16 Congress and foreign mining companies.
05:30 NDAA Act, John McCain, Paul Gosar and the Oak Flat Territory.
09:27 Oak Flat land swap and NDAA rider deals.
12:44 Jobs and copper.
14:24 New York Times coverage and racism against Native Americans.
17:30 Block caving method vs traditional mining practices.
23:10 National Environment and Policy Survey.
24:40 The unethical way to pass a bill.
27:53 Reversal, repeal and the partnership with southern Baptists.
31:36 Where and ways to help.
33:20 Thank you and goodbye.

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'Defense Bill Passes, Giving Sacred Native American Sites To Mining Company'

Michael McAuliff - Huffington Post  - December 12, 2014

WASHINGTON — The U.S. Senate passed a measure authorizing the nation’s defense programs Friday, and along with it managed to give lands sacred to Native Americans to a foreign company that owns a uranium mine with Iran.

The $585 billion National Defense Authorization Act of 2015 is one of the must-pass pieces of legislation that Congress moves every year. But like they did in attaching extraneous riders to the must-pass government funding bill, lawmakers used the defense bill as a vehicle to pass a massive public lands package.

The bill sailed through on a vote of 89 to 11.

Many of the land measures were popular. But one, the Southeast Arizona Land Exchange and Conservation Act, had twice failed to win support in the House of Representatives, blocked both by conservationists and conservatives.

The deal gives a subsidiary of the Australian-English mining firm Rio Tinto 2,400 acres of the Tonto National Forest in exchange for several other parcels so it can mine a massive copper deposit. The deal gives a subsidiary of the Australian-English mining firm Rio Tinto 2,400 acres of the Tonto National Forest in exchange for several other parcels so it can mine a massive copper deposit. 

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This issue is far more of an infringement than the laying of a pipe. The politic of the day, administered by the CFR media membership, is simple: If a person or entity is a Globalist and tied to Globalist political unions, then this type of story is downplayed to an extreme degree; if not, then it becomes a major issue. All one would have to do is notice that former President Obama, who was the one who finally signed NDAA into law, was obviously downplayed in this Huffington Post article... and naturally also by the mainstream media. In any case, this is a very real and ongoing issue.

Additionally, Obama's executive orders establishing "national monuments" on Navajo lands was not a "victory for the Navajos" as the mainstream press reported. Now they can't even use their own holy sites anymore! In effect, the government has stolen those holy sites--millions of acres!--away from the tribe. The term "Fascism" usually refers to the collusion between corporations and the state, and that's really what this is all about.... especially when the mainstream media is controlled by a mere six corporations.... all tied to the Council on Foreign Relations, a Globalist think tank.

There are so many dirty tricks that can be played, such as big corporate interests first establishing a controlled opposition environmental group which will serve as the strawman. In this manner, arguments of lessor importance can be used as a vanguard; while the stronger arguments can be downplayed. If they stand to make billions, then spending a few million on a legal/unethical project like this would be nothing to them. All that would be required is financing and a few key administrators to overrule the honest people involved in the decision making process.

What ever happened to the Anti-Globalization Movement anyway? How about the Peace Movement? They were eliminated by controlled opposition projects. Now we have people supposedly from the left who are outraged because the Wall Street War Machine didn't get their candidate in, and obviously didn't care about issues like this, endless wars, the genocidal bombing of the water project in Libya, the massive defrauding of starving Haitians, etc. Why didn't they protest the wars? Travel ban? How about the "medicine ban" during the embargo on Iraq which directly caused the death of over a million Iraqis... mostly children?... which was cheerleaded by bought-and-paid-for-CNN, which is owned by Time-Warner a CFR member along with all the bankers and war profiteers.

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'American Indians Fight For Land Rights Against Obama’s Executive Decrees'

Joseph Hammond -The Daily Caller - December 22, 2016

Betty Jones, an elderly Navajo medicine woman, grew up among the red rock canyons, mesas, and ancient cliff dwellings of Southeastern Utah. Now, a proposed national monument may prevent her from collecting traditional herbal medicines she’s gathered all her life.

Her family believes Jones is in her mid-nineties, since her birth certificate was issued after her actual birth. The proposed 1.9-million-acre Bears Ears National Monument would potentially limit her access to sacred sites and impact herb collection. She also says that she is entitled to grazing rights on the land under an agreement with the federal government dating to the 1940s.

“My late husband was promised access to the land for sheep grazing and it’s wrong for Washington to go back on its word,“ she says. Nearby, her daughter unrolled maps and opened old letters to prove the claim.

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'Jeremiah Johnson' - movie review

'Jeremiah Johnson' (Wikipedia)

Jeremiah Johnson is a 1972 western film directed by Sydney Pollack and starring Robert Redford as the title character and Will Geer as "Bear Claw" Chris Lapp. The film has been said to have been based in part on the life of the legendary mountain man Liver-Eating Johnson, based on Raymond Thorp and Robert Bunker's book 'Crow Killer: The Saga of Liver-Eating Johnson' and Vardis Fisher's 'Mountain Man'.

The script was written by John Milius and Edward Anhalt; the film was shot at various locations in Redford's adopted home state of Utah. It was entered into the 1972 Cannes Film Festival.

I try to be somewhat objective when typing movie reviews, but I think I will put my own stamp on this one. I saw a lot of symbolism that I wanted to delve into. I think 'Jeremiah Johnson' was a great movie, an original western, and it's a distinctly Ameican story. When I viewed it again recently however, I saw even deeper connections. I saw Odinic connections for one thing. The rugged White characters, with their long beards and survivalist mindset, reminded me of the perception of what Germanic tribesman were like. Perhaps something like the Langobards, and the Camunians were a mountain people. Also, the Amerindians represented the northern Mongolians who have historically shared the northern stretches of the Earth. The "son" at the end of Johnson reminded me of a Norse or Viking name, of which it probably has strong connections to. One scene referred to "Jeremiah" as a "Christian name," and I suppose that it could be said that "Johnson" was symbolically his "Odinic name." The movie portrays pure evolutionary struggle.


All of the actors and actresses were good in their roles.. and I thought that the three primary mountain men (Robert Redford, Will Geer, and Stefan Gierasch as Del Gue) were great.. real "characters" in the other sense of the word. Robert Redford and Will Geer are/were so totally different in every way than their characters here... the magic of the movies. The Pagan Amerindians, as well as the White mountain men (my symbolic "Odinic" survivalists) were pure fighting machines.. and I think the movie gave at least a glimpse of that. Apparently, the real man about whom the film was based, "Liver-Eating Johnson," was so fearsome that the Amerindians--rather than hate him--actually honored him. At one point, Johnson asked a settler what the neat collection of artifacts were near his cabin, and the settler told him that it was a monument to him (Johnson). "Some say that you're dead on account of this. Some say that you'll never die on account of this."

There was an actual Del Gue, who was his trapping partner according to the real account. There were a lot of French who came into probably Quebec mostly, and worked their way down into the United States frontiers like the Rocky Mountains, and established rural trade economies. The Rocky Mountains encompass such a vast highlands region in the center of North America, not just Colorado. They stretch from northern New Mexico to northern British Columbia. According to Wikipedia: Mountain men were most common in the North American Rocky Mountains from about 1810 through the 1880s (with a peak population in the early 1840s). The movie at times, sort've symbolically, showed the Rocky Mountains as "the top of the world"... a tremendous allure.

"The Rocky Mountains is the marrow of the world. I ain't ever seen 'em, but my heart tells me that the Andes is foothills and the Alps are for children to climb." --Del Gue

The soundtrack is worth mentioning. It's a blend of American folklore, the spiritual, and nature... and it worked well within the movie. It reflected both nature's harmonious and innocent side.. and it's harsh and violent side. The bear, to me, represents these dual sides of nature. The movie begins with Jeremiah Johnson arriving by river boat at a trading post at the base of the mountains, ready to begin his trek. Soon, a particular wise-looking Amerindian observes Johnson appearing somewhat buffoonish as he tries to catch fish in a river amid the snow. Much later, well after Johnson has been transformed into a legend, he runs into that same Amerindian... but I don't want to give away the powerful scene.

Numerous scenes during the winter show how harsh and lonely mountain life can be. The vast majority of people today could not survive long if they were placed in that environment, no matter how well equipped they were. The log cabins shown in the movie were great, with a particular wide and low to the ground design. To me, symbolically, this type of transformation of a person is well represented by the "werewolf" concept. Even a soft person could be transformed into a rough, survivalist, fighter if they were pushed to it... and they had the will to survive. In one scene, after he had to fight for his life, he gave out a loud scream... perhaps symbolically like a wolf's howl. A wolf can seem sort've happy-go-lucky... yet can become a ferocious fighter at the drop of a hat. The North American timber wolf is originally from Europe as their DNA has shown; having crossed an ice-bridge long ago. Coyotes are native to North America.

Part of the transformational concept is that a person living in the wild develops a "sixth-sense," which the movie portrayed. "Bear Claw," who became Johnson's mentor, said "The mountain has its own ways." I think he meant the cycle of nature, the cycle of life, the natural process of things. In this world, nature was in full command. That process is enhanced even more in the harsh mountains. There's a certain inherent morality to nature.

There is a book about the real person named John Johnson, known as Liver-Eating Johnson. It's called 'Crow Killer: The Saga of Liver-Eating Johnson'. The "Crows" were one of the Amerindians tribes, and he went to war with them after they killed his wife and unborn child. That's the account, and the larger "who did what to whom" is something that could be discussed all day. The struggle did symbolize the overall struggle between the two "northern races" over the course of history. Genghis Khan was a northern Mongol who invaded Europe. The earliest fossils in at least North America were proto-European ("Kennewick Man") and were apparently defeated by the incoming Mongols. However, basically these mountain men conducted peaceful trade with the native tribes, and there were missionaries, trading posts, etc.

The other book that the film was based on was 'Mountain Man', a fictional account of that period. I still remember that up to the late 70s, when someone liked a movie, there were no DVDs or even VHS tapes to buy. They would buy soundtracks, books, posters, or novelty items about a popular movie. This movie was popular, as it was the seventh highest grossing film in 1972.

I don't want to give away too much of the plot, but at one point the Crows kill Johnson's family in what was a revenge attack from their point of view. Johnson--my symbolic Odinic survivalist--gives them what appeared to be a "Viking funeal" by assembling the bodies and burning the cabin. I know, it probably wasn't intended to symbolize that... but I saw Odinic symbolism... or Pagan Amerindian symbolism for that matter. At one point, Johnson warned U.S. Cavalrymen not to enter Crow burial grounds... as they "guarded it with spirits."

The Del Gue character was a real wildman, with a real way with words. Near the end of the movie, he is riding away and gives a particularly great rant about being a mountain man... and it only really makes sense upon actually hearing it. Initially, his gregarious personality and headstrong manner overwhelmed Johnson... who was still a novice. However, upon meeting Johnson much later on, he appears somewhat in awe of the legend.. "Jeremiah Johnson." There were a lot of subtle messages like this that perhaps can't easily be put into words... but they helped make it a great movie.

Below, the theme song from the movie: 'The Way That You Wander'

The way that you wander is the way that you choose,
The day that you tarry is the day that you lose.
Sunshine or thunder, a man will always wonder.
Where the fair wind blows.

At the end of the movie... one extra line is added to the lyrics...

“And some folks say…he’s up there.. still…” 




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Pathfinder (2007 film) - movie review

'Pathfinder' (2007 film) [Wikipedia]

'Pathfinder' (also known by the alternate title 'Pathfinder: The Legend of the Ghost Warrior') is a 2007 American epic action film directed by Marcus Nispel, distributed by 20th Century Fox, and stars Karl Urban, Clancy Brown, Ralf Möller, Moon Bloodgood, Russell Means, Jay Tavare, and Nathaniel Arcand. It is a loose remake of an Oscar-nominated 1987 Norwegian movie of the same name although the geographic setting and peoples involved are very different.

Pathfinder takes place in "Vinland" (the Eastern Seaboard of Pre-Columbian North America) and the story involves a fictional conflict between the Native Americans and Viking marauders from across the Atlantic Ocean, who have come to the Americas in search of colonization.

Pathfinder received a widely negative critical reception upon release and was not successful at the box office, although the film did enjoy much better home video sales whereby the studio recouped its costs and developed a small cult status. It was also adapted into a graphic novel by Dark Horse Comics.

As the film began, the following text appeared:

600 years before Columbus,
North America was invaded by
ruthless marauders intent on
settling its shores.

Something stopped them.

What follows is the legend.

Of course, this film was fiction; and it almost had a "fantasy" type of feel to it. To say the least, there was no doubt about who the "good guys" and "bad guys" were. Since the film 'Dances with Wolves', it has been fashionable to portray Amerindians in a positive light, and Europeans in a negative light. It's difficult to do a review and also avoid this paradigm. The movie starts with an Amerindian woman seeing a "white horse" which chases her, and she doesn't know what it is; and that pretty much set the stage. The horse may have appeared like a dragon to the unknowing, and this horse was white. Shortly after, an earlier scene is shown of an earlier Viking invasion where a boy is left behind, and is adopted into "the people of the dawn." Amerindian life is then shown to be very peaceful, based on inter-tribal trade; beyond which the entire movie is non-stop violence as the "dragon men" return.

According to the historical record, there was a short-lived Viking settlement on the eastern Canadian coast, but there is no record of any warfare; much less the genocidal actions portrayed. The real Vikings attacked everyone, and did so as raiding parties. They didn't just slaughter people for the fun of it. The Vikings of this movie looked more like the Hells Angels motorcycle gang than to those of the historical record. They were huge and monster-like; completely covered in armor and heavy material. In many Roman movies, the Romans are portrayed as righteous despite the fact that they were invading another people, as in 'Gladiator' (the invasion of Germania). Here the Amerindians were pragmatically speaking English for the viewer, but the Vikings spoke their own language.

The early scenes seemed heartfelt enough, with the now grown Viking boy close to his adopted family, yet still struggling to fit in. At times later in the film, this dynamic did become a little bit ungenuine. The tribal chieftain--the "Pathfinder"--then tells the now grown man called "Ghost" who he is: "You were born of the dragon men, but you are ours now." There is a semi-romance thoughout the film between Ghost and the Pathfinder's daughter "Starfire." Ghost has one possession from his Viking roots; that being a large deadly sword that he practices with frequently.

The director seems to hold back from displaying cultural Norse/Odinic symbolism; as almost to try to place them more in a general "bad-guy" category. Only the dragon-head on a viking ship early in the movie was shown as a symbol. Even the horned helmets appeared different than what we perceive to be those of the Vikings; with these horns more like Satanic ram horns... sharpened and turned downward to the jawline on either side. I believe that I saw what at least appeared to be some Celtic knotwork on a couple of Viking breastplates, but I'm not certain.

There was a movie from the late 70s called 'The Norsemen', which portrayed a Viking incursion into North America, and which included warfare with Amerindians. 'Pathfinder" portrayed the Vikings almost like a perception of what we think of as "Nazis." "Gunnar," the chieftain--in particular, made references to the Amerindians as inferior, uncivilized, and savages; despite the brutality of the portrayed-Vikings, who murdered entire villages. They even hung someone upside down with their head in the flames, and pulled a man apart by tying his wrists with rope.

The cherry on top was they they even had the gall to call Ghost a "traitor" when he fought back. Ghost, at one key point, said in response "You're not my kind." At the end, there was a reference to keeping "the worlds of hate away from our shores." That's sort've an odd way to word it, unless those "worlds" were in reference to European "worlds" (Greek, Roman, Viking, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, German, Russian, Venetian, etc. empires).

If you just want to see some action and fighting, then this is an okay movie if you don't take it seriously. I know, some people need to be portrayed as "evil" or you don't have a movie! Still, they took this to a real extreme. The Vikings weren't racial genocidists. They invaded everyone, very much including other Germanic peoples.

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The Grand Medicine Lodge

I am currently reading a book entitled 'Murder in Minnesota' (Trenerry; 1962). In one chapter, law enforcement authorities from the new frontier state were searching for a Chippewa Amerindian who was wanted for the murder of a settler family. This was 1872, on the frontier of eastern Minnesota.


Excerpt from page 64:

At Sandy Lake on May 20, 1872, the Pillager (a Chippewa band) were holding a ceremonial of the Grand Medicine Lodge, a complex socioreligious society of considerable importance to the Chippewa. By late afternoon the group of several hundred men and women was in a mixed state of religious exaltation and drunkenness. Into the lion's den walked three white men to arrest the principal chief's nephew; Whitehead, the special agent, and D.O. Preston and George W. Holland, Brainerd attorneys.


For some reason, when I read "the Grand Medicine Lodge, a complex socioreligious society of considerable importance to the Chippewa," I thought of various other esoteric societies... and perhaps how the cultural forerunners of those societies had existed openly like this. For example, the German Builders' Guild or the Minnesinger Order. While those esoteric societies may have focused around architecture, symbolism, and sacred geometry--and perhaps the Grand Medicine Lodge may have focused on medicine and metaphysics--ultimately various societies of native believers have a lot in common.

Freemasonic, Rosicrucian, or Kabbalistic occult orders are--while similar in some ways--different in that they're not folkish associations. Personally, this is why I admire orders like the Grand Medicine Lodge or the Minnesinger Order. I don't see much virtue in any people pushing their way into, and meddling with cultures other than their own... such as what Westerners try to do with Hawaiian or Amerindian traditions. Admiration, study, or friendship should be sufficient.

A lot of cultures, like the Chippewa tribe, still possess their native traditions; while those of the West had been driven underground, like the German Builders' Guild (Odinic/Heathen). Every person in the world descended from pagan tribes, which all had institutions of knowledge like the Grand Medicine Lodge for tens of thousands of years.

Personally, I don't see any conflict between a persons Christian beliefs and what they could see as their native spiritual-cultural pursuit! You can have all the technology in the world, but if you lose all sense of yourself and of your ancient roots... you're lost. Everything doesn't have to be a competition either (capitalism, sports, material gain, political power, etc.); or, perhaps we need a new "competition" to see who can do the most to save our environment?


Midewiwin (Wikipedia)

The Midewiwin (also spelled Midewin and Medewiwin) or the Grand Medicine Society is a secretive religion of the aboriginal groups of the Maritimes, New England and Great Lakes regions in North America. Its practitioners are called Midew and the practices of Midewiwin referred to as Mide. Occasionally, male Midew are called Midewinini, which sometimes is translated into English as "medicine man."

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The Arctic Home in the Vedas: Part 9

The Týrlanders
 
About every 45,000 years, after the two poles have attained enough of the earth's water within their massive frozen zones, the outer crust of the earth moves about 2,000 miles like a loose outer layer of an orange. This last happened about 12,000 years ago. It wasn't really a "pole shift," but a tectonic "plate shift." The direction of this movement was southward from the standpoint of North America, and northward from the point of view of Eurasia. Therefore, North America melted and became a temperate climate zone, while Eurasia was thrust up towards and even into the arctic. This caused an immediate and dramatic earth change. For example, mammoths died and froze so quickly that some are still being found in perfectly preserved condition.

Some of the Mongol (the sub-racial meaning) ancestors of Amerindians were forced to migrate over the frozen land bridge between Siberia and Alaska, which would be almost like going south at that time in terms of climate. People from the proto-Germanic homeland, which was somewhere along the Kara Sea in northern Eurasia, suddenly found themselves living near or even above the Arctic Circle, which directly ties into Bal Gangadhar Tilak's theory in 'Arctic Home in the Vedas'. In other words, it's not a "theory," but a fact. It should be noted that this very ancient proto-Germanic homeland had a climate and terrain which was probably much like Montana. The only feature of Tilak's theory which wasn't really true was that he lumped all modern Europeans into one basket and sincerely proclaimed point-blank that they weren't native to Europe originally. This was what I would call a half-truth which he overlooked.

The proto-Germanics seemed to continue to live in this homeland--let just call it "Týrland" after what seems to have been the chief god of the proto-Germanics at one time, until if and when someone comes up with a better name--for a period of time until migrating to other lands. Some migrated to a land which later became known as the Tibet Autonomous Region, and although there isn't a trace of them left, modern natives of this region still use a version of the proto-Germanic triskelion as one of their most sacred symbols. Some migrated down into lands east of the Caspian Sea and north of the Himalayas, like the Tarim Basin. Some then continued to migrate into what is today Iran, and then eventually their uniracial/interethnic (I'm guessing "Balkan-looking"; Note: White "interethnic," not "interracial") descendants into the Indus Valley. I believe that others migrated into ancient Assyria. Still others migrated into Europe, where they merged with native "Alpine" proto-Europeans in many places to produce the Celtic-cultures; and eventually they moved in mass into northern Europe, and being checked at the border of ancient Gaul (for a while).


Eastward migration after the "plate-shift?"

Could some of the ancient "Týrlanders" have migrated eastward, and even into the Americas? "Kennewick Man"--found near Kennewick, Washington--comes to mind, but we still don't know the origins of this man. The Army Corps of Engineers purposely destroyed the area of this find so no further evidence can be found there; as well as outrageously mismanaging the remains, compromising any future DNA studies of it. All we really know about Kennewick man is that he lived over 9,000 years ago and clearly had a Caucasian skull type. He could have been proto-Germanic, originating from a genetic migration from either the eastern or western land bridges. He may have been an ancient proto-European (non-Germanic) type who was part of a westward migration; or he may very well have been part of an ancient migration of Ainu people, who were a "Caucasian-like" people whose true origins are unknown.

Clearly based on their actions, the establishment does not want any of us to look at the evidence of Ainu, proto-Germanic, Chinese, Egyptian, Phoenician, proto-European/Welsh, Roman, ancient Hebrew, or Viking movements into the Americas. Only Leif Erikson is "allowed" to have been the sole non-Amerindian to have visited the pre-Columbian Americas, despite clear evidence to the contrary. Very clear non-Amerindian artifacts--like those left by Chinese travelers on Victoria Island, or Egyptian artifacts found along the Mississippi River and in the Grand Canyon--are either permanently put away in storage or disappear into private collections. Curiously, the Amerindians on Victoria Island today look much more Chinese than Amerindian. Usually numerically smaller cultures who are absorbed into larger ones are just thought of as being "one people" at the end of the day. However, for some reason, the establishment has decided on their own that Amerindians are the ONE exception to this rule, and other peoples/cultures may not be discussed.

Excerpt from pages 97 and 98 of 'The Suppressed History of America' (Schrag; Haze; 2011):

According to an article published in the May 13, 1928, edition of the Humboldt Star, a nine-foot-tall red-haired mummy was discovered deep inside the Lovelock Cave, located twenty miles south of the town of Lovelock, Nevada. Isolated on top of a high hill, the cave is estimated to be 40 feet deep and 180 feet wide. The Piute Indians told the early Nevadan settlers fantastic stories about the origins of the cave, including tales about their fierce battles with red-haired white giants. In their oral history they claimed to have cornered the remaining giants in Lovelock Cave. Once the giants were trapped, the Piutes blocked the entrance with sagebrush and set it on fire. They reportedly stoked the fire until all the remaining giants had been smothered by smoke.

Further evidence supporting local legends about giants had emerged in 1911 when a mining company plowing for bat guano in Lovelock Cave began to find amazing artifacts. They discovered layers of burned materials and broken arrows that validated the Piutes' claims. Further down they found the remains of giant red-haired mummies, along with strange stone artifacts and shells carved with mysterious symbols. As usual most of these artifacts were either lost or fell into the hands of private collectors who whisked them away. One museum did manage to preserve some of the items discovered at Lovelock Cave.

The Humboldt County Museum at Winnemucca, Nevada, has in its collection a skull from one of the giants. Stan Nielsen, the famed treasure hunter, pilot, and photojournalist, went to investigate this skull with some dental plaster and a camera. The museum curator graciously allowed Nielsen to compare the plaster model of a normal-size man's jaw with a jaw of one of the giants found in the museum's collection. The photographic evidence clearly shows the vast difference in size between the plaster model and the immense jaw from the giant skull. What's more amazing is that anyone can see this skull for themselves by contacting the friendly staff at the Humboldt County Museum. Recent e-mail transactions have verified that some of the sensational Lovelock Cave artifacts, including a giant skull, are being kept in the back room of the museum.

This event--the killing of this tribe--took place about five or six hundred years ago, long after eastward traveling proto-Germanics may have crossed the Bering Strait land bridge. One curious note is that during the global flood which followed the last "plate shift" 12,000 years ago, California's huge Central Valley was flooded by the ocean. It was literally part of the Pacific Ocean, and the "coast" would have come right up close to northern Nevada. That dynamic may have existed right up to five or six thousand years ago. Could this red-haired tribe--which most clearly was of an Indo-European type based on the existing skulls--have been a last remnant of ancient eastward-migrating proto-Germanic people? Maybe they were part of, or descended from, a more recent westward traveling group? Could this tribe have traveled by boat--possibly either around the tip of South America, or even across the waters north of Canada and Alaska--thousands of years ago to this ancient inland coast? Were these people among the last remnants of the migrating post-glacial movement (actually "post-plate shift") "Týrlanders" In North America?

There are some issues that need to be addressed regarding what is known about this mysterious tribe. First, the archeological establishment clearly isn't having any of it. To them, these are "Native Americans," plain and simple, despite CLEAR evidence to the contrary! Next, I have seen some of the old photographs which were taken prior to these mummies being taken away and "lost." They were quite similar to the Tarim mummies. They appeared as "Norse-looking," and with red hair as was evident even in the black and white photographs. They were more "mummified" rather than mummies from a burial rite. It isn't likely that they were Vikings, since red hair is not common in Scandinavia in particular. I would love to know what those "mysterious symbols" looked like. If, for example, there was a triskelion symbol, then this would be a closed issue. Since some of those symbols still exist for public view, we need to see them! If anyone reading this lives or will be near Winnemucca, and is interested in this subject, then by all means get permission and get in that back room and take some pictures!!

Next, evidently, only two of the remains were incredibly tall--about eight and a half feet--while the rest apparently averaged between six and a half to seven feet..... which would only be about six inches taller than the average height of modern Montenegrins (6'3"). If these were pure proto-Germanics, then this "giant concept" would not be all that amazing. That is pretty damn tall though! In addition, they didn't live in that cave. Apparently, the Piutes used that cave for food and storage, so it would seem that most of the artifacts were Piute. However, since the symbols were alien to them, they were likely from this mysterious tribe... and certainly we need to see them. In other words, they weren't "cave men." As far as cannibalism, we probably will never know. Perhaps during this war, there was an act of cannibalism, or maybe there was propaganda among the Piutes to get them in a war mode. If this tribe was perhaps seventeen inches taller on average than the Piutes, coupled with the fact that they were at war, then exaggerations were possible... "giants."

Lastly, the "dental comparison" isn't quite as incredible when you overlay the normal dental mold directly over the teeth of "the giant." It's certainly big, but not all that comparatively "giant." Look for yourself. Definitely big... but not so "giant." Also, based on the remaining skulls, the report of these people as having "layers of teeth" seems to have been a misrepresentation of the initial evidence. This was certainly a big tribe though, and probably were part of a really big strain of ancient pure "Týrlander." You can't really think only of modern Scandinavians--the purest modern Teutonic strain--as far as comparison. The average height for males in Scandinavia is just under 5'11," which is tall for an average height, but may have been on the short side in ancient "Týrland." However, this mysterious tribe must have been an unusually tall sub-grouping.

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~~~ Týrland was the Arctic homeland ~~~

Proven.

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