Tuesday, February 4, 2014

The Arctic Home in the Vedas: Part 17 - "Thule, Saturn, & an alternative explanation"

Thule, Saturn, & an alternative explanation: Part 6

This is part of a video produced by the scientists at The Thunderbolts Project

Wal Thornhill and Dave Talbott will each give two thought-provoking presentations at EU2014 Conference: All About Evidence, Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA, March 20 - 24, 2014. For more information on all the speakers start here:

Here we offer David Talbott's first glimpses of celestial dramas in ancient times. Just a few thousand years ago a gathering of planets hung as towering forms in the ancient sky close to the earth, provoking spectacular electric discharge formations above our forebears.

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The "electric universe" theory is gaining momentum; however, so many of the biggest names in "mainstream science" have entire careers invested into ideas which may not be true ("gravity universe", "black holes", "big bang theory"). As a consequence, they almost always will not even listen or respond to any new ideas; and will depend on the establishments of the world to back them up. The 1994 book 'Forbidden Archeology: The Hidden History of the Human Race'--by Michael A. Cremo and Richard L. Thompson--documents clear evidence that mainstream archeology literally hides away in storage locations because they can't explain them away.

The idea that a "Teutonic homeland" may have existed on the North Pole seems too incredible to believe until one looks at all the evidence. I see much more evidence to support it than there is evidence to the contrary. As to whether they were somehow a superior people isn't really applicable to whether or not this homeland existed. There's much more basis for an ancient Mediterranean origin of civilization than any other race or culture.

Could there have been an Earth with no seasons in the not-too-distant past? We know that Antarctica was once a continent with a warm climate and thriving with life. If you watched the above video, then if true it could explain a Thule-like civilization.. or at least a Teutonic settlement... literally on the North Pole. Was a still viable star Saturn the sun in the northern sky? Were the dramatically nearby interacting planets "the gods?" This electric solar system of only a few thousand years ago would be the last piece of evidence to finally prove Bal Gangadhar Tilak's theory of "the Arctic home in the Vedas."

As far as the massive "Saturnian symbolism" in the world today, that goes beyond where I want to go here. Also, the presence of some people who were eight to nine feet tall--which is true since there are the remains to prove it--still are not numerically numerous enough to point-blank state that "these were the ancient Teutons." They may have been a different type of human being altogether. I do, however, believe that the original Teutons could have been six and a half to seven feet on average. There is at least one sub-Saharan tribe today which has an average height of close to seven feet. The average height of Scandinavians today is 5'11", which would work as far as a northern Europe of largely Teutonic and proto-European mixtures.



  1. Joseph, are you into Y-haplogroups by any chance? You nailed it when you said "proto-Europeans" because Swedes have haplogroup I(as in "eye") as their dominant one. This is the oldest European Y haplogroup. Scandinavians are also the tallest Europeans---well, among another group of folks: Herzego-Dalmatians, folks inhabiting Dalmatia as well as southern and western parts of BiH.

    Like Scandinavians, Herzegovians' dominant haplotype is I, but clade I2a, to be exact. Again, old paleolithic haplotype. As you may know these people are also very tall as the average height there rivals that of the Scandinavians. They are also one of the greatest fighting races(like Scandinavians).

    These people I refer to mostly identify as Croats(but some are also ethnic Muslims, as they call themselves). In fact, many of the toughest Croats in early modern and modern history have origins there. Take Ante Pavelic, the WW2 Croat Ustasha leader as an example.

    Except these Herzegovians are generally brunet people(Muslims in central Bosnia do tend to be quite fair, though). I believe this was a biological adaptation to the solar radiation in the region.

    I think it's an interesting correlation.

    But, of course, as we know, Tuscans and Emilians have a lot of tall "Dinaric" guys and are the next tallest people in Southern Europe after Herzegovans. I believe that Etruscans were a tall race.


    Haplogroup I in Europe(all clades)

    dominant Cisalpine haplotype R1b of the clade U152:

    1. I'm familiar with these terms, but I haven't gone beyond reading data or maps--and more-or-less accepting what the author seems to suggest. The tall Montinegrins or Dalmations seem to make me think of the ancient Ilyrians, and a possible connection there. I don't know how halogroup I would fit into this proto-European hypothesis, other than that there were perhaps several tall stocks that later merged into these regional types.

      For some reason, I'm thinking of a woman that I saw in car rental agency in downtown SF in late Summer. She was clearly either an "Italian" tourist or here on business. She was at least six-foot tall and about 175 lbs--but probably more like 6'1" 180--with eggshell skin, long dark hair and perfect brown eyes. She was so big and beautiful. I wonder if she could have been from Florence or Bologna; like a throwback "Etruscan."